Achtung! - it not in german ?
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Achtung! - it not in german ?
[QUOTE=drongo;105639]Achtung! - it not in german ?[/QUOTE]
Ja, ja, natürlich :D
[URL="http://www.castlecops.com/t102301-Hijackthis_Guidelines_Read_Before_Posting.html"]a rules example[/URL]
[QUOTE]Let it be...
Scrat4yClaws[/QUOTE]
Can you imagine how it sounds in English? I can't... :)
([B]4[/B] means [B]ch[/B] in Russian only)
A good note, by the way :) Habitually in English 4 is used for F. :)
Hi Nick,
I'll try to explain my corrections.
`We don't search IN the path, I guess. `
Are you searching for the directory (folder)? If yes - you are searching FOR the path; if you are searching file - you are searching in the path.
`Nope. :) We don't mean 'this concrete search' - we mean a search by this pattern, so it cannot be definite. `
Then you are right I think.
`Not necessarily, but I'll ponder it over.`
It sounds better without too much "these searches".
`"Click the button", you mean? `
Correct. You are sitting at home and doing things not at things.
`I guess it will be putting the link to you thread in Help Me to the corresponding field.`
I meant "to your" - just mistyped of course.
`It's clear it is quarantined. We've been speaking about quarantined file for a dozen of lines. :)`
Oh. We spoke about file twice in one short sentence - I've tried to rephrase. "You can send it @" - that's what I wanted to say.
`It is of need everywhere or of no need anywhere. :)`
You've not mentioned those plural files just before, so usage of "the" is wrong. Compare to the 1st sentence and topic header.
OK?
[QUOTE=Bratez;105709]Can you imagine how it sounds in English? I can't... :)
([B]4[/B] means [B]ch[/B] in Russian only)[/QUOTE]
Yes, I understood that yesterday evening)
It should be
[B]ScratchyClaws[/B]
and I wouldn't try to personalize it anymore...
[QUOTE=Rene-gad;105621]In sence of the international rules it should be obligatory written, and the best af all - just [B]before[/B] the Rules, that [B][COLOR="Red"]the using of AVZ is the own risk of the user and neither Oleg Zaytsev nor Helpers are responsible for possibly damages on the infected system.[/COLOR][/B]
@Scrat4yClaws Pls. edit correspondently ;)[/QUOTE]
I think we have to put it there anyway... Just in case...
maybe let's write -
The use of AVZ utility is at user's own risk and neither Oleg Zaytsev nor Helpers are responsible for possible damages of the infected system.
will insert it this way. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm not sure about *Oleg Zaytsev and Helpers*... They are not responsible, but administrator is?
[B]Oleg Zaytsev and Forum Administration[/B]?
also I'm not sure... But maybe we can say *Executing AVZ*
And the instructions... unlike AVZ they can be just [B]followed[/B], instead of being [B]executed[/B]...
Now the FAQ section.
post about Hijack This
[QUOTE]That means that you are supposed to run HijackThis, do a system scan, then in the log check the enumerated items and click at the "Fix Checked" button. After the operation you should reboot the PC.[/QUOTE]
That means that you are supposed to run HijackThis, do a system scan, [U]then check the enumerated items in the log and click [/U]at the "Fix Checked" button. After the operation you should reboot the PC.
[QUOTE]
HijackThis enables you to revert the changes you've made.[/QUOTE]
Hijack This enables you to [U]undo[/U] the changes you've made.
[QUOTE]In the Help Me section helpers and experts often advise "fixing in HijackThis" some items and enumerate them.[/QUOTE]
In the Help Me section helpers and experts often advise "fixing in HijackThis" [U]some enumerated items[/U].
Just my opinion...
By the way, I translated RIC's tutorial about the creating files (I think this should be useful), check it out)
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I think we have to put it there anyway...
[/QUOTE]
We haven't. By running AVZ the user swears to the EULA. ;)
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That means that you are supposed to run HijackThis, do a system scan, [U]then check the enumerated items in the log and click [/U]at the "Fix Checked" button. After the operation you should reboot the PC.
[/QUOTE]
OK, let it be.
[QUOTE]Hijack This enables you to [U]undo[/U] the changes you've made.[/QUOTE]
Not a single difference. :)
[QUOTE]
In the Help Me section helpers and experts often advise "fixing in HijackThis" [U]some enumerated items[/U].
[/QUOTE]
It looks as if we are going to enumerate them right now. :)
[QUOTE=NickGolovko;105750]We haven't. By running AVZ the user swears to the EULA. ;)
[/QUOTE]
Not every users reads it... And still Americans are well known for asking for compensations after doing silly or dangerous things... Let's protect ourselves. By the way I remember somebody writing in Russian section about AVZ destroing Windows...
[QUOTE]It looks as if we are going to enumerate them right now.[/QUOTE]
What about "[B]listed[/B]"?
...some listed items...
I have some free time now, let me know if there's anything to be translated...
I've slightly modified your notification anyway. :)
James Blond agreed to translate other FAQ items step by step. If you will I'll send you his variants for verification before publishing them.
[QUOTE=NickGolovko;105764]I've slightly modified your notification anyway. :)
James Blond agreed to translate other FAQ items step by step. If you will I'll send you his variants for verification before publishing them.[/QUOTE]
So he's translating and I'm checking? OK that's even easier))
Anyway I can always help with something... For examle if Russian Helper doesn't understand what some person wants in Help Me... just let me know))
How to boot in Safe Mode ?
[QUOTE]When you [B][U]switch on [/U][/B]your PC, after the first BIOS window ("clock speed", "RAM", "Setup" can be displayed there) has disappeared, [B][U]you [/U][/B]push "F8" periodically until you receive a screen with a list of [B][U]several[/U][/B] boot-up modes - one of them is Safe Mode. [B][U]You[/U][/B] choose this mode with arrow keys and press Enter.[/QUOTE]
[B]Turn on [/B]is better
[B]Several[/B] not needed
[B]You[/B] not needed.
[quote=Bratez;105789]How to boot in Safe Mode ?
[B]Several[/B] not needed
[/quote]
Replying about [B]several[/B] 'cos it's a one that I inserted. It seems to me quite natural in this context.
By the way, guys, have you noticed the English forum style in English subforums (page headers, buttons, adverts...)? :)
@NickGolovko
Special for this operation is a special term suggested:
[CODE][B]STACCATO[/B] WITH F8-KEY[/CODE];)
[QUOTE=NickGolovko;105802]Replying about [B]several[/B] 'cos it's a one that I inserted. It seems to me quite natural in this context.
By the way, guys, have you noticed the English forum style in English subforums (page headers, buttons, adverts...)? :)[/QUOTE]
I agree about "several"...
English style is very nice.
(Just looked at the style and language chooser and noticed [B]English style[/B] and [B]Russian new[/B] in a row - looks confusing)
And... I never felt myself a guy :format1:
[quote=Bratez;105789]How to boot in Safe Mode ?
[B]Turn on [/B]is better
[B]Several[/B] not needed
[B]You[/B] not needed.[/quote]
Thanks :) I just did copy-paste from [url]http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:YAT8jVlVtvoJ:www.safensoft.ru/helpdesk/index.phtml%3Fcid%3D8%26fm%3D39%26page%3D1+%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BA+%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B3%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%81%D1%8F+%D0%B2+%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC+%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5+(Safe+Mode)&hl=ru&ct=clnk&cd=13&client=firefox-a[/url]
It's proving that "just copy/paste is bad :)
I've changed *how to clean system restore folders* in the rules a little...
By the way... I think point 2 should be just *NOTE:...*
something is wrong...
[QUOTE]When you receive the following message, click Yes to confirm that you want to turn off System Restore:
You have chosen to turn off System Restore. If you continue, all existing restore points will be deleted, and you will not be able to track or undo changes to your computer.
Do you want to turn off System Restore?
After a few moments, the System Properties dialog box closes.[/QUOTE]
I think it's text layout))
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105585]Let me correct the corrector, please)))
the link to you[B]r[/B] thread
and I think it is more effective to send e-mails [B]to[/B] certain adrress, than [B]at[/B] it))[/quote]
Unfortunately this is not that simple. e.g. "email me TO" could be used as well as "email me AT". As you said before, US-EN is quite differs from GB-EN. And you were absolutely right.
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105585] And some more -
It's OK to say [B]English Forum[/B] instead of Forum in English
don't loose the apostrophe - [B]it's[/B][/quote]
I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sence to me. It's - it is...could you please explain?
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105585] I think that 5mb is the size of CureIT! utility, not a system scan)
So let's say
If you don’t have any antivirus installed- download the DrWeb - CureIT! utility (about 5 mb) and perform the system scan [/quote]
Agreed. My mystake, though not a critical i believe.
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105585][I]nocuous software[/I] really confused me. I have a feeling that there's some special word for it...[/quote]
I've heard this from our company customers (i.e. definitely native speakers) for couple of times before and I'm using this word without any confusion.
With all due respect, I must admit that "there are some holes in your theory" (c)
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105834]I've changed *how to clean system restore folders* in the rules a little...
By the way... I think point 2 should be just *NOTE:...*
something is wrong...
I think it's text layout))[/quote]
Laugh out loud
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405[/url]
[COLOR="Silver"]btw, if the forum administration for some reasons doubts in my translation correctness, the decision to no longer use my assistance is up to them.
Best regards, [/COLOR]
[QUOTE=James Blond;105915]Laugh out loud
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405[/url]
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So you just took it from there? Than you just lost one free line... The idea is that message text should be seperated in some way from the other text.
And the keywords at the end of the page... They do make a lot of sence-
[QUOTE]Keywords:
kbacw kbceip kbexpertisebeginner kbhowto kbacwsurvey kbenv kbinfo KB310405[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=James Blond;105915]
btw, if the forum administration for some reasons doubts in my translation correctness, the decision to no longer use my assistance is up to them.
Best regards, [/QUOTE]
Nobody doubts it, I believe. Because of some differences in American and British English language, non-americans sometimes misunderstand you. There are some words and phrases which are used only in certain country, so we need to modify the text a little to make it more international.
Talking about [B]its[/B], it was my mistake. I hust got so used to cat[B]'s[/B], somebody[B]'s[/B] and so on, that used the apostrophe here too. It's just a problem of beeing too clever:wall:
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105949]So you just took it from there?[/quote] Sorry, not "just". I was researching over the Internet trying to find the most understandable solution to translate these instructions. What could be more understandable than Microsoft' directions? Is that a crime?
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105949]we need to modify the text a little to make it more international.[/quote]
What do you mean by "more international"?
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105949] Talking about [B]its[/B], it was my mistake. I hust got so used to cat[B]'s[/B], somebody[B]'s[/B] and so on, that used the apostrophe here too. It's just a problem of beeing too clever:wall:[/quote]
A little note here regarding "cat's and somebody's". US-EN spoken people may not use the apostrophe all the time even when it's needed. You could probably try to visit some US forums and see it yourself.
Cheers
[QUOTE=James Blond;105975]You could probably try to visit some US forums and see it yourself.[/QUOTE]
What is used in BBs - not only in US, but anywhere - is not really a language but a slang.
[QUOTE=James Blond;105975]Sorry, not "just". I was researching over the Internet trying to find the most understandable solution to translate these instructions. What could be more understandable than Microsoft' directions? Is that a crime?
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. But Microsoft also speaks American English (that's why you can't do your English homework in Word).
I meant that you took the instrustion from the site, and not translated it (or edited) yourself.
[QUOTE]What do you mean by "more international"? [/QUOTE]
So every English-speaking person will understand it. Not only american one.
[QUOTE]A little note here regarding "cat's and somebody's". US-EN spoken people may not use the apostrophe all the time even when it's needed. You could probably try to visit some US forums and see it yourself.[/QUOTE]
I sometimes spend my free-time on gaiaonline ([url]http://gaiaonline.com[/url]) I had a lot of problems with understanding people there (I comunicate with english-speaking people in real-life for more than 10 years). I can tell you one thing about it. This language is not English!!! (the same as language from udaff.com is not classic Russian)
[quote=Rene-gad;105984]What is used in BBs - not only in US, but anywhere - is not really a language but a slang.[/quote]
That is the point! US-EN is a language, moreover it is quite independent. Don't mess it with the classical English.
You all know the differences, like these ones:
colour = color (us)
humour = humor (us)
etc
Slang don't have any relation to language at all.
We're talking about apostrophe here.
How do you say "by our company policy" or "by our company's policy"?
[quote=ScratchyClaws;105988]No it isn't. But Microsoft also speaks American English (that's why you can't do your English homework in Word).
I meant that you took the instrustion from the site, and not translated it (or edited) yourself.
So every English-speaking person will understand it. Not only american one.
I sometimes spend my free-time on gaiaonline ([URL]http://gaiaonline.com[/URL]) I had a lot of problems with understanding people there (I comunicate with english-speaking people in real-life for more than 10 years). I can tell you one thing about it. This language is not English!!! (the same as language from udaff.com is not classic Russian)[/quote]
American English is all I know, sorry. It is quite understandable to all English-speaking people, but it is hard to say the same about the classical English.
*not translated it (or edited) yourself
If you can do better, please do.
[SIZE="4"][B]Anyway, guys, we are not going to make it philological forum, are we?[/B][/SIZE]
I already said about apostrophe that it was my mistake.
I just have an idea of keeping classical English here (even if it is not so independent, than American).
Dear James.
I've spent about 15 years of my life doing my best to study British English, and still sometimes I don't understand American English. And I hope it's not only my problem.
You're a proffesional american technical interpretor. I'm only a begginer, but a technical interpretor too.
The thing is that you quite understand us here, and we are sometimes completely confused by your words. Let us just try to make the forum understandable for everybody.
I never said that I can do better. I only said that my opinion is different and asked to correct me if I'm wrong.
*It's a f##kin' team work* (as it was said in one song). Let's try to make something TOGETHER.
[COLOR="Gray"]P.S.- my opinion (as ussual).
Other moderators, admins and everybody else, pardon the rude word, it's just a quote.[/COLOR]
You are a mod here. ;) Don't worry, guys, 'cos I also follow the texts I publish in this section, and I unite your positions to create the best output possible. ;)
Hi, everybody! It's funny to see how non-native speakers are trying to determine the rules for English usage. I'm sure nobody cares, as long as the support is great... ;) Paul
[QUOTE=James Blond;105995]US-EN is a language, moreover it is quite independent. Don't mess it with the classical English.
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Who can read is always in the advantage ;)
[QUOTE]What is used in [B]BBs[/B]... is not really a language but a slang.[/QUOTE]
BB= Buiettin Board=Forum. Don't mess the languages on the street (in Manhattan and in Queens it's different anymore), in the newspapers, in TV, in movies etc. and in BBs, NG and chat rooms.
p2u ,I agee with you:) Welcome to our forum. I hope, you will join our help team in the future . ( May i understand , you are from kaspersky forum ?)
Goedendag & welkom [B]p2u[/B] :)
[quote=drongo;106030]p2u ,I agee with you:) Welcome to our forum. I hope, you will join our help team in the future . ( May i understand , you are from kaspersky forum ?)[/quote]
Hi, [b]drongo[/b]! Thanks. Yes, I post regularly on the Kaspersky forum with some more general security info if needed. I'm not actually into 'healing' and stuff... ;) Paul
[quote=Rene-gad;106035]Goedendag & welkom [B]p2u[/B] :)[/quote]
Hi, [b]Rene-gad[/b]! I won't break the rules by answering you in Dutch, but I take it as a big compliment that you seem to know the language... ;) Paul
[QUOTE=p2u;106037] you seem to know the language... [/QUOTE]
Not really ;). But I understand some Dutch because I'm working in the German Sales Office of the Dutch company now (we have got our Headquarters in Utrecht).
[QUOTE]It is unnecessary to install all possible anti-virus programs and scan your computer. [/QUOTE]
I suggest writing
[QUOTE]It is unnecessary to install all possible anti-virus programs, you have to choose one (we suggest using [I]*insert 1-2 fine antiviruses*[/I]), update it's databases and scan your computer.[/QUOTE]
and after that the text about *help me* section goes...
I just thought that the original text can be understood like *it is unnecessary to use anti-viruses at all*
[quote=ScratchyClaws;107314]I suggest writing
and after that the text about *help me* section goes...
I just thought that the original text can be understood like *it is unnecessary to use anti-viruses at all*[/quote]
I made a slight modification.
This way it looks much better.
Um... I deleted *in a case like this* 'cause in other cases you don't need to install all available antiviruses too....
[QUOTE=ScratchyClaws] the same as language from udaff.com is not classic Russian [/QUOTE]
Quite a point.
There are guys, though, with a yet more kinky language.
Suggest visiting Nag's forum:
[url]http://forum.nag.ru/index.php?showtopic=34108[/url]
, and other topics around
Who can dig what they are talking about, please tell us all